tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post1317506599288134309..comments2024-03-28T22:21:46.973-07:00Comments on Tossing It Out: What Is the Future of the United States and the world?Arlee Birdhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11663942782929929334noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-17729561260157690012010-09-18T08:49:35.320-07:002010-09-18T08:49:35.320-07:00Hi Lee .. the influence is where the West needs to...Hi Lee .. the influence is where the West needs to be .. in India and China .. India tends to get forgotten .. they've got good infrastructure and bureaucracy .. <br /><br />How they will allow us to live or how we can interact and trade with them is another matter .. <br /><br />It's an interesting time ahead .. the only 'good' thing we've got going for us - is the net is English - which may help us for a while in the future .. <br /><br />It's a huge subject .. and perspectives are very different from here in the UK .. HilaryHilary Melton-Butcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17596532480645510678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-17649136450631794912010-09-16T20:01:17.676-07:002010-09-16T20:01:17.676-07:00Diana -- I don't know that we'll see our t...Diana -- I don't know that we'll see our technology crash, but I think it may turn on us in a very controlling way. But, oh my, no computers, no blogging, we're gonna have to find something to occupy us.<br /><br />Stephen Tremp -- I am with you on this. Biblical prophecy is really making more and more sense at time goes by. It's really amazing how things are falling into place.Arlee Birdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11663942782929929334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-51503730361094275422010-09-16T19:48:54.486-07:002010-09-16T19:48:54.486-07:00I lean heavily in the direction we are on the cusp...I lean heavily in the direction we are on the cusp of End Times. We're so there. The dominoes are being lined up and this era will be ushered in most likely in our life time. IMHO.<br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.stephentremp.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Stephen Tremp</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-68162567084277008512010-09-16T18:33:17.600-07:002010-09-16T18:33:17.600-07:00Well I have learned that history generally repeats...Well I have learned that history generally repeats itself. And I believe that technology will be the downfall of our society as we know it.<br />One way or another, if we survive it all, I believe that we will resort to living as we did before technology. Which is why I think we should teach our children more than just how to use a computer.<br />Drastic thought? Perhaps. But what goes around, comes around. Love Di ♥Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11429812875586479256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-37553554041033543282010-09-16T18:17:39.286-07:002010-09-16T18:17:39.286-07:00Hart - Thank you for your very in depth contributi...Hart - Thank you for your very in depth contribution. I do think the spirit and attitude of the average American is changing more toward dependency upon someone who will take care of them. Socialistic trends certainly do offer some benefits but in the long run I'm not sure it will benefit the true quality of our lives. As far as legislating morality, I think all laws and ruling are reflections of somebody's or some goup's morality. The question is whose morality and who is ultimately benefited. Good comments!!<br /><br />Andrew -- Hello and thanks for the comment. I hope the future is not as bleak as you are feeling, but I can understand why you would feel this way.<br /><br />StMc -- As always, you make good points. I think much of today's thinking abandons logic and consequence. What may be good right now might not be the best thing over time.<br /><br />Yvonne -- You are right. We are each individually responsible for the way we think and act. Maybe we can change things around us in little ways to make them better. If everyone did this then maybe the world would change for the better.Arlee Birdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11663942782929929334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-63807885674221267102010-09-16T13:18:03.301-07:002010-09-16T13:18:03.301-07:00Our government leaves alot to be desired , I think...Our government leaves alot to be desired , I think it is world wide, but As long as we can think positive and laugh in the gace of adversary we have not lost our pride.<br /><br />Yvonne.RHYTHM AND RHYMEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11386975261804630799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-62791260265679412732010-09-16T13:16:54.936-07:002010-09-16T13:16:54.936-07:00Hart Johnson says: "The US is desperately cli...Hart Johnson says: <i>"The US is desperately clinging to its age of greatness. ... I figure countries get a century of lucking into the next big thing and holding power, and then they start to CLING to what gave them power, forgetting that the power was in the innovation and forward thinking, so they're done."</i><br /><br />So on the one hand, she acknowledges that America's time to shine is coming to an end, but she claims it's primarily due to our "clinging" to what gave us power rather than remaining innovative and "forward thinking".<br /><br />But then on the other hand, she admits that we weren't actually "clinging" to what gave us power, because in fact we changed over time and began to...<br /><br /><i>..."socialize education, public safety, infrastructure"</i><br /><br />This was not always the case. And things were better when it wasn't. <br /><br />Perhaps it hasn't occurred to Hart that the U.S. never was just "<b>lucking into</b> the next big thing" and the REAL reason we're sinking is because we in fact ABANDONED all of the things that originally made us great (i.e., the governmental principles espoused by our brilliant Founding Fathers in the "supreme law of the land" which they bequeathed to us - aka The U.S. Constitution), and as we abandoned our true conservative roots and embraced "progressive" ideas (or as Hart might call it "forward thinking") in the form of Socialism (both the Marxist and the Keynesian variety) we began to tumble politically, morally, socially, and economically.<br /><br />No thanks, socialism is NOT the answer. Preferring socialism over the Constitution and the Bill Of Rights - which were designed to separate powers, restrict the "good intentions" of the Federal Government, secure our free market Capitalist system, secure individual and states rights - THAT is what destroyed us and US. <br /><br />No, contrary to what Hart thinks, clinging to what made us great is not what wrecked this country. <i>NOT CLINGING</i> to what made this country great is what wrecked it! <br /><br />~ D-FensDogg<br />'Loyal American Underground'Stephen T. McCarthyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00249125637725791567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-36107017883846842742010-09-16T13:09:27.992-07:002010-09-16T13:09:27.992-07:00I think we're well on our way downhill....
Th...I think we're well on our way downhill....<br /> The future is incredibly bleak for this country. On every level.<br /><br /> I'm just glad I got to live my youth during its peak.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13517857978576422454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-64288642276535398592010-09-16T11:46:13.883-07:002010-09-16T11:46:13.883-07:00Comments are slow in coming on this topic, which I...Comments are slow in coming on this topic, which I had somewhat expected. It is a big question, and there are some very controversial aspects to it. But so far there are some great comments and I will reply to these so far.<br /><br />Alex -- Controlling the people by keeping them happy is an old ploy. Faithful minions are quick to protect their guardians when threats encroach. Perhaps the moralistic decline also has something to do with control?<br /><br />Dezmond -- I could also envision a vastly more powerful European union which includes former USSR countries becoming far more powerful than the US. Also, unions of Asian and islamic countries coud develop into formidable empires. With the addition of thought modes that deemphasize religion and morals in one or more of this allied empires I can see the Orwellian vision described in <i>1984</i>. Biblical prophecies also envision similar scenarios. A third world war would be catastrophic as you indicate.<br /><br />Jules -- I agree with what you have said in a very clear and eloquent manner. With no moral compass to guide us, chaos could be the destination of the U.S. and the world. We already have seen many signs of this.<br /><br />StMc -- And don't stop saying it. You have a message that people need to hear.<br /><br />Larry-- I've visited the cowboy and left my words. I wonder what he thinks or our future.<br /><br />L. Diane -- the 10 commandments must have been too radical. And the problem is that they really are becoming too radical for many of people in the U.S. and elsewhere. The government is making the new rules for us.Arlee Birdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11663942782929929334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-74219551067806193782010-09-16T11:17:10.316-07:002010-09-16T11:17:10.316-07:00Okay... just to be the trouble-maker that I am. I...Okay... just to be the trouble-maker that I am. I think it's ALWAYS about the money, and that we just retrospectively assign other causes to things such as 'greatness' and 'folley'. War is good because World War II gave America its greatness, eh? (erm... not so much)<br /><br />The US is desperately clinging to its age of greatness. Just as Rome did. As Napolean did. As the British Empire did. I figure countries get a century of lucking into the next big thing and holding power, and then they start to CLING to what gave them power, forgetting that the power was in the innovation and forward thinking, so they're done.<br /><br />We are SO AFRAID of Socialism, but it isn't either/or. You can SOCIALIALIZE medicine and take care of the mentally ill and the poorest poor and STILL have incentives for productivity. Look at the Scandenavian countries, with the highest quality of life on earth. Yes, taxes are high, but nobody is falling out the bottom and EVERYBODY lives better, except that worthless 1% that contributes nothing of productive value anyway because all THEIR investments are overseas.<br /><br />We already socialize education, public safety, infrastructure. EVERYBODY deserved a fair chance, even kids born to incompetent boobs, and without socializing this stuff, we disadvantage those people with the misfortune of having the 'wrong sort' of parents.<br /><br />I don't want the government in my personal business. (I'm pretty darned libertarian where social issues are concerned) I think there is nothing more frightening that the government having anything to do with religion or morality because that lays down an assumption we should all have the SAME religion and morality. People need to be taught to think and evaluate all the options with full knowledge of the real consequences, and then they do the right thing because it is the right thing.<br /><br />Things like who I marry or sleep with? NOT the government's business (and I think there is no stand more hippocritical that thinking the government DOES belong in the bedroom but not in the pocketbook to take care of people)--if it wants to legislate MORALITY, it needs to fully take care of everybody (which is NOT what I would advocate... just pointing out the conflict in the thought process here)<br /><br />So there... I'm sure I offended some. My views are strong, but that is how I see it. The US CANNOT be great again unless it stops yearning for the past and learns how to move forward again with its eyes open to the fact of the world.Hart Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17599570189253229318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-72310538008572428772010-09-16T10:38:26.288-07:002010-09-16T10:38:26.288-07:00In the last area, the removal of the Ten Commandme...In the last area, the removal of the Ten Commandments from schools because someone might read them and actually follow them comes to mind. Yeah, right - wouldn't that be a shame?L. Diane Wolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06425864276166334896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-80424262072981327212010-09-16T09:53:18.365-07:002010-09-16T09:53:18.365-07:00I think we should encourage the existentialist cow...I think we should encourage the existentialist cowboy to comment!DiscConnectedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07013919800637508392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-86218085140397736992010-09-16T08:01:00.040-07:002010-09-16T08:01:00.040-07:00r-LEE-b ~
I think--
Oh, heck, you already know wha...r-LEE-b ~<br />I think--<br />Oh, heck, you already know what I think - I've said it enough times.<br /><br />~ D-FensDogg<br />'Loyal American Underground'Stephen T. McCarthyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00249125637725791567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-6235831158914244222010-09-16T07:35:52.509-07:002010-09-16T07:35:52.509-07:00I believe, and it is just me, that the day they to...I believe, and it is just me, that the day they took prayer out of school was the day they signed our death warrant. Not because of prayer as much as the moral fiber to which this nation was created.<br /><br />Anytime a society strives for harmony at any cost, the less they achieve it. That so-called harmony comes with the cost of each part of said society feeling more deserving than the other and thus chaos.<br /><br />It comes down to being human compassion and holding government accountable. The real problem is we as a country have let the government go so long without being held accountable that they have taken it from us.<br /><br />Oh, I'm on a soap box. I'll shut up now. :)<br /><a href="http://fragilemouse.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Jules @ Trying To Get Over The Rainbow</a>Juleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02136045025997662057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-51619498921073155932010-09-16T05:22:41.081-07:002010-09-16T05:22:41.081-07:00Well, I believe it's quite clear that in some ...Well, I believe it's quite clear that in some moment in the future we will all become American colonies (by force, by economic pressure, over media...) and all the small countries will have absolutely no say in anything but that's already happening so it will come as no surprise. <br /><br />I also believe that in some point in future humanity will reject all kind of religions and turn to advanced laws and rules of science, intelligence and logic. <br /><br />The decline in morality and political hunger of major Western powers will lead the world into a Third World War after which nothing will be the same again, but I hope it won't happen during our lifetimes, although I do hope we will be visited by aliens while I'm still breathing.DEZMONDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14127166104359407763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-59120868171958212362010-09-16T04:23:05.759-07:002010-09-16T04:23:05.759-07:00When a government provides for its people in that ...When a government provides for its people in that manner, they are not taking care of them - they are in effect controlling them.<br />And I think the decline in morality has had a greater effect than most people realize.Alex J. Cavanaughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09770065693345181702noreply@blogger.com