tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post3945772172529908801..comments2024-03-28T22:21:46.973-07:00Comments on Tossing It Out: Pam Williams Book Tour / Battle of the Bands ResultsArlee Birdhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11663942782929929334noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-8012357266636306042013-09-08T22:41:30.942-07:002013-09-08T22:41:30.942-07:00Congrats to Pam on A to Z Devotions For Writers! I...Congrats to Pam on A to Z Devotions For Writers! It's great that you appear in the acknowledgements Lee! You have inspired many authors.<br /><br />JulieEmpty Nest Insiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10074223969046687064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-40067187356294401772013-09-08T17:36:55.632-07:002013-09-08T17:36:55.632-07:00Sheboygan -- A good observation. This connection ...Sheboygan -- A good observation. This connection might have also been made my Dewey Bunnel when he wrote the song. I think the connection to Young was made with a purposeful intent to emulate one of his songwriting heroes. <br /><br />Lee<br />Arlee Birdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11663942782929929334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-91051133630395690322013-09-08T15:34:14.460-07:002013-09-08T15:34:14.460-07:00Lee -
Just a small comment pulled out of me by yo...Lee -<br /><br />Just a small comment pulled out of me by your conversation with Stephen McCarthy<br /><br />I, too, always thought "A Horse With No Name" sounded like Young, and recognized that many people though it was Neil Young song. Although it certainly has a similar style, I have always thought that part of that error is that the song has the word "horse" in the title. With Crazy Horse as the name of Young's band, I think it adds to the confusion, subconsciously.Sheboyganboy 6noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-25390410477639729562013-09-08T13:39:33.260-07:002013-09-08T13:39:33.260-07:00Milo -- Just goes to show that what can be done wi...Milo -- Just goes to show that what can be done with 26 letters is limitless.<br /><br />Pam -- Glad to have featured your book here. Hope my efforts have helped some.<br /><br />DG -- I remember Lynyrd Skynyrd's "Sweet Home Alabama" knocking Neil Young's "Southern Man", but then later read where Young loved the Skynyrd song and the group and Young were mutual admirers. <br /><br />LeeArlee Birdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11663942782929929334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-6960028101409488632013-09-08T09:15:17.306-07:002013-09-08T09:15:17.306-07:00Neil Young is super, and I must have missed this o...Neil Young is super, and I must have missed this one, Lee. I would have voted for him. Although Alabama (the group) didn't appreciate his 'Southern Man' song.<br /><br />We all seek something different in music. I love the violin, too, which was used to great effect in some of Bob Dylan's newer songs. D.G. Hudsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06213237734772028645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-38354456682296430612013-09-08T08:50:00.894-07:002013-09-08T08:50:00.894-07:00StMc -- Thanks for the added comments.
I'm g...StMc -- Thanks for the added comments.<br /><br /><i> I'm going to guess and say he was shifting perspective at that point and speaking a line on behalf of "the establishment",</i><br /><br />Looking at all of the lyrics taken together I see what Neil is saying here, but the lines are put together in a way that they don't related like they should. In typical rock/pop music style Neil is using sound bites and terseness to express himself lyrically whereas Dylan is speaking with poetry and connected commentary. They are both good at what they do.<br /><br /><i>you were CORRECT, the first video I posted was much shorter because it ENDED when 'A Day In The Life' ended</i><br /><br />Okay I remember that now. I wasn't imagining things after all.<br /><br /><i>Horse With No Name</i><br /><br />Wikipedia (I think this entry is accurate) says regarding Dewey Bunnell's song: "<br />The song's resemblance to some of Neil Young's work aroused some controversy. "I know that virtually everyone, on first hearing, assumed it was Neil", Bunnell says. "I never fully shied away from the fact that I was inspired by him. I think it's in the structure of the song as much as in the tone of his voice. It did hurt a little, because we got some pretty bad backlash. I've always attributed it more to people protecting their own heroes more than attacking me."<br /><br />Back then especially groups and artists were always tried to emulate whoever was popular. Think of all the sound-alikes of Elvis, Beatles, and beach music.<br /><br />I remember after CS&N came out a group called Redeye released a song called "Games". I mistook it for the more famous group I already knew and took to this new song. I bought Redeye's album thinking it would be more stuff that sounded like CS&N. When I really like something I'll try to find as much as I can that's similar. I think that's what a lot of other people do as well.<br /><br />Yes, the mind is fascinating. Weird.<br /><br />Lee<br />Arlee Birdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11663942782929929334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-7458545088864249532013-09-08T08:16:36.935-07:002013-09-08T08:16:36.935-07:00Thank you, Lee, for the glowing review of my book!...Thank you, Lee, for the glowing review of my book! Much appreciated, my friend!<br />And thank you to each one who commented on Lee's post. Your encouragement and kind words keep me writing. :)<br />Blessings to all!<br />Pam WilliamsPam Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08430692684579547400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-47338980963149717722013-09-08T07:35:22.310-07:002013-09-08T07:35:22.310-07:00Cool idea for her A2Z posts -- why not, right?Cool idea for her A2Z posts -- why not, right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-9100002769924036782013-09-07T22:47:01.277-07:002013-09-07T22:47:01.277-07:00BROTHER LEE ~
Regarding Neil Young's lyrics: I...BROTHER LEE ~<br />Regarding Neil Young's lyrics: I've always thought they were adequate and nothing more. The one real exception, for me, is 'SUGAR MOUNTAIN'. I like everything about that song, including the lyrics, in which I thought Neil really "did NOT stumble over any metaphors".<br /><br />I agree that, with Neil, it's really about the mood he sets. That album 'Tonight's The Night' - man, I don't own it now, but I had it in the days of "<b>L</b>icorice <b>P</b>izza, and I played it quite a bit. The mood of that really did capture the theme he was working with. And his album 'Rust Never Sleeps'... Whoa! Hey, hey, my, my! Talk about setting a "mood" with the sound of your guitar. Especially on that "Johnny Rotten" song!<br /><br /><i>>>... And the lines that really puzzle me are "Soldiers are cutting us down/Should have been done long ago".</i><br /><br />Interesting! I never caught that line, although I've heard the song countless times. I'm going to guess and say he was shifting perspective at that point and speaking a line on behalf of "the establishment", "the average, short-haired citizen", or whatever you wanna call it. Regardless, it wasn't clear, therefore it was poorly done.<br /><br /><i>>>... I was surprised to see that the song time was showing over 11 minutes because I had thought I originally saw that it was just under 7 minutes. Our minds play strange deceptions I guess.</i><br /><br />No, sir! My mind was knocked out, but yours was OK, because I can actually explain that:<br /><br />Sometime after I posted my BOTB #3 installment, YouTube deleted the Brian Auger video I had selected. When that was pointed out to me in the Comment Section, I went back to YouTube, found a different, still active video for the Auger cut, and replaced the original with it.<br /><br />For whatever reason (must be an Airheadzonan), the person who posted the video for Auger's 'A Day In The Life' also included some other thing at the end, which extended the video's playing time. But you were CORRECT, the first video I posted was much shorter because it ENDED when 'A Day In The Life' ended.<br /><br />You were truly thinking; I was truly asleep the first time I listened to McK Spring.<br /><br />When that DJ pointed out how similar America's 'Horse...' was to a typical Neil Young song, I mentioned it to my Brother. <br /><br />In return, my Brother told me a story: While he was working on a movie set as an 'Extra', circa 1980, some guy on the set had a guitar with him. A girl asked him to play "a Neil Young song" and he played 'A Horse With No Name'. <br /><br />From that day until the day about 6 months ago when I told my Brother Nappy what I had learned from that Airheadzona DJ, Nappy had been under the impression that 'A Horse With No Name' was by Neil Young. He'd been hearing it for decades and thought it was Young singing. (Who can blame him?)<br /><br />I'm actually embarrassed that I never made that connection. But then, I knew very early on that it was America, so my mind never bothered to ask me: Dude, don't you think that sounds like Neil Young?!<br /><br />Sheesh! Is the mind fascinating or what?!<br /><br />~ D-FensDogg<br />'Loyal American Underground'Stephen T. McCarthyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00249125637725791567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-70490916191864676472013-09-07T18:12:00.014-07:002013-09-07T18:12:00.014-07:00Thank you for the admission. You are a man of int...Thank you for the admission. You are a man of integrity.<br /><br /><i>I have often read that Neil Young is supposed to be a top-notch wordsmith...</i><br /><br />I've never been overly impressed with Young's lyrics. I mean they're okay for what they are most of the time. Like for some reason this morning the song "Ohio" started running through my head. What simplistic lyrics. And the lines that really puzzle me are "Soldiers are cutting us down/Should have been done long ago". That always bothered me. Is he defending the soldiers shooting the students and wondering why it hadn't been done before then? Very poorly written I think. I'm sure I could come up with many examples, but his music and the sound of the songs is so wonderful to me that I forgive his sometimes weird lyricism.<br /><br /><i>I thought I even saw the video timed at, like, 3:34 or thereabouts.)</i><br /><br />This is funny because a while ago I went back to listen to the 3:14 (or wherever it was) point in the Brian Auger tune where you were pointing out the licks. I was surprised to see that the song time was showing over 11 minutes because I had thought I originally saw that it was just under 7 minutes. Our minds play strange deceptions I guess.<br /><br /><i>By the way, have you ever noticed how much America's 'A Horse With No Name' sounds like a Neil Young original? </i><br /><br />When I first heard this song on the radio (around 1972 I think) I thought it was Neil Young. I immediately became a big America fan because of the similarity to Neil Young. <br /><br />Thanks for the elucidations and miscellania. <br /><br />Lee<br />Arlee Birdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11663942782929929334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-89697064786414894572013-09-07T17:52:27.327-07:002013-09-07T17:52:27.327-07:00BOIDMAN ~
I saw your reply to my BOTB comment days...BOIDMAN ~<br />I saw your reply to my BOTB comment days ago, and I've been thinking about it ever since. To refresh your memory, here's what you wrote to me:<br /><br /><i>>>... [...] To make the comparison you've made seems a bit off to me since Dylan is mainly about the words and for Young it's the effect of the music. Your comments on the comparison make me wonder how closely you listened to the MKS version. The are similar in tempo and arrangement to some vague extent, but there is no mistaking one for the other. Spring's vocalist is far better technically than Young and the orchestration takes the song to a very different level.</i><br /><br />I'd been intending to return and defend my original analysis. After all, I DID listen to both versions from beginning to end and I knew what I heard. <br /><br />My perception was that McKendree Spring had simply gutted the long guitar solos and shortened the song to 3 & a half minutes, trying to score a hit single. <br /><br />I have often read that Neil Young is supposed to be a top-notch wordsmith (who "won't stumble over a metaphor"), but without batting an eyelash I could rattle off over 10 lyricists in Rock who I think are head and shoulders better than Young. Hence the "poor man's Dylan" assessment.<br /><br />In preparation to defend my earlier comment, I re-listened to both versions of the song. Your blog says I posted my comment after 7 PM. Not so. It was very early in the morning, before I took a shower and went to work.<br /><br />In listening a second time, and this time fully awake instead of half a(deep)sleep, I realized how mistaken my first, sleepwalking ears and comment were.<br /><br />First of all, McKendree Spring was NOT gutting the song for a hit; their version is nearly 6 minutes long. (How did I get the idea it was "hit single length"? I thought I even saw the video timed at, like, 3:34 or thereabouts.)<br /><br />Secondly, there is quite a bit of difference in the arrangement! I have no idea what I was hearing, but that'll teach me not to try this again first thing in the morning. <br /><br />I liked the McKendree Spring version much, much better the second time. I'd still vote for Young's original, because I do like his edgy, frayed guitar work on it. (It's almost even "funky" in a "White Canadian" kinda way. Ha!)<br /><br />But your response to me was correct, and the McKendree Spring version was plenty different enough from the original to justify the re-recording of the tune. <br /><br />Never let it be said that Stephen T. McCarthy can't admit when he's made a mistake. <br /><br />By the way, have you ever noticed how much America's 'A Horse With No Name' sounds like a Neil Young original? <br /><br />About 6 months ago, I heard a DJ here in Phoenix make that observation just before playing 'A Horse With No Name'. I thought the DJ must be insane, because it had never occurred to me that America's biggest hit was reminiscent of Neil Young's singing and writing.<br /><br />But from the beginning of the song, with that thought in mind, I was floored: HOKEY-SMOKE & HOO-WEE! America was definitely laying their "Neil Young" on thick!<br /><br />~ D-FensDogg<br />'Loyal American Underground'Stephen T. McCarthyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00249125637725791567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-71181841912169214702013-09-06T18:09:52.629-07:002013-09-06T18:09:52.629-07:00Rachna-- Thank you!
Tyrean -- I'm always look...Rachna-- Thank you!<br /><br />Tyrean -- I'm always looking for rock bands that feature a violinist.<br /><br />Yeamie -- I hope there are many who will find Pam's book useful.<br /><br />Sheena-kay -- We can find plusses and minuses in everything can't we.<br /><br />Mark -- I'm extra excited when a book results from A to Z.<br /><br />Desert -- Hang onto that dream! You can do it!<br /><br />Faraway -- Which car? Doesn't he have a collection of them?<br /><br />Lee<br /><br /><br /><br />Arlee Birdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11663942782929929334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-11590728527330052852013-09-06T18:02:39.264-07:002013-09-06T18:02:39.264-07:00Go Neil!
Just a few days ago his (Neil Young'...Go Neil!<br /><br />Just a few days ago his (Neil Young's) car broke down just outside of Reno, he was around locally signing autographs and visiting with folks. (Not me, just folks.)farawayeyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17578277501054242356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-318273479304462952013-09-06T16:32:13.573-07:002013-09-06T16:32:13.573-07:00Congratulations to Pam and I'm so glad you ins...Congratulations to Pam and I'm so glad you inspired her. Someday I'd like to put some of my blog posts together and see she's inspiring others. It's a chain.... Intangible Heartshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05047040538015079182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-52835965717394553112013-09-06T12:20:30.073-07:002013-09-06T12:20:30.073-07:00That's very cool...I always like seeing someon...That's very cool...I always like seeing someone take something (such as blog posts/ blog hops, etc.) and turn them into something else (a book, or what have you).<br /><br />Great stuff and best of luck to Pam :)Mark Meanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08029920604932980141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-60994880279124381042013-09-06T11:18:18.515-07:002013-09-06T11:18:18.515-07:00Best of luck to Pam and every song has a plus and ...Best of luck to Pam and every song has a plus and minus.Sheena-kay Grahamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17712661419116636671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-11408859673808134702013-09-06T10:31:09.356-07:002013-09-06T10:31:09.356-07:00This sounds like a really good book to me, hope th...This sounds like a really good book to me, hope that it goes well for Pam.Outcasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03400755239612162157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-37728920929369480872013-09-06T10:11:19.866-07:002013-09-06T10:11:19.866-07:00Violin is always a great instrument in a rock song...Violin is always a great instrument in a rock song. :)<br /><br />Love that Pam's book is out!!! Congrats and Best Wishes to her!Tyrean Martinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15356604721537744361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-35461860232102343692013-09-06T10:02:05.355-07:002013-09-06T10:02:05.355-07:00Good luck to Pam with her new book.Good luck to Pam with her new book.Rachna Chhabriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16900999965919504282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-3011412314361866882013-09-06T09:14:17.423-07:002013-09-06T09:14:17.423-07:00Yvonne -- I'm thrilled every time I hear about...Yvonne -- I'm thrilled every time I hear about an A to Z inspired book.<br /><br />Alex -- I've heard some flack from guitarists about Neil's simple solo on the song. I think Slutsky does an excellent solo on his version.<br /><br />Jemi -- Me too!<br /><br />L.Diane -- I guess I'm not surprised that Neil came out on top.<br /><br />Yolanda -- Let us know when your A to Z book comes out and I'll feature it too!<br /><br />Kelly -- Yeah, I feel kinda like a proud uncle or something.<br /><br />Lee<br />Arlee Birdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11663942782929929334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-84450524953864600012013-09-06T08:28:16.645-07:002013-09-06T08:28:16.645-07:00It's cool that Blogging From A to Z has inspir...It's cool that Blogging From A to Z has inspired others' projects. I'm sure you're almost as proud as the author is.Kelly Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01752857506190488860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-15302771580897731592013-09-06T04:59:19.157-07:002013-09-06T04:59:19.157-07:00What a wonderful idea, congratulations Pam. I love...What a wonderful idea, congratulations Pam. I love a daily devotional book and to add to that a writing prompt - really awesome!<br /><br />And to think it came from the A to Z, love that. And believe it or not the subject for next year's challenge came to me in the shower the other day! Starting on it now!<br /><br />Happy Friday!Yolanda Renéehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09085436784133103221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-18531104634499577312013-09-06T04:54:25.687-07:002013-09-06T04:54:25.687-07:00It sounds like a wonderful book.
I liked the McKe...It sounds like a wonderful book.<br /><br />I liked the McKendree Spring version better. Guess we were in the minority.L. Diane Wolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06425864276166334896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-73807482065847343202013-09-06T04:22:26.913-07:002013-09-06T04:22:26.913-07:00Good luck to Pam - hope her book does well! :)Good luck to Pam - hope her book does well! :)Jemi Fraserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02214408467456320167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-149224757183756660.post-54900999553686392762013-09-06T02:38:03.739-07:002013-09-06T02:38:03.739-07:00I'll have to pick up the devotional. The cover...I'll have to pick up the devotional. The cover is really well done. <br />It's cool how many have turned their Challenge posts into books!<br />And I'll always be a fan of guitar solos, but I definitely see Robin's point. That was my favorite version.Alex J. Cavanaughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09770065693345181702noreply@blogger.com